What kind of TV ratings will The Ultimate Fighter get this Wednesday and in the weeks to follow, now that Kimbo Slice has had his turn inside the reality show octagon?
Yeah, I know, Dana White and the show’s Disembodied Narrator started dropping hints before last week’s episode ended that Kimbo will be back. But does anyone really care anymore? The backyard brawler’s presence did earn the Spike series its best viewership numbers in 10 seasons, just as he brought CBS big TV numbers back when he was fighting for Elite XC. But all that happened before he was dominated by Roy Nelson.
Maybe it was a case of disappearing dollar signs that prompted Dana White to be so dismissive in his appraisal of Nelson’s victory. After the bout Dana wore a smirk and spat out, “Roy did just enough to win and not get hit.” Well, isn’t that pretty much the point of mixed martial arts? To neutralize your opponent while sustaining no damage? That certainly is a wise strategy while participating on a reality show where you may be called upon to lace ‘em up again with little post-fight recovery time.
But all that aside, characterizing Roy’s performance as “just enough to win” was disingenuous of Dana. Doing “just enough to win” would have meant taking Kimbo down and sitting in his guard for two rounds, or maintaining striking distance and winning a jabbing contest. Sure, Nelson didn’t score a stylishly vicious KO and didn’t bloody Slice with brutal ground-and-pound. But he did dominate. He took Kimbo to the mat, grabbed a dominant position and rendered the guy utterly defenseless. Twice.
So what if Roy’s 40-something unanswered punches to Kimbo’s head were basically pitter-patter? They were unanswered! Kimbo was defenseless! That’s a dominant victory. This is a sport, after all, not a backyard brawl on YouTube.
Kimbo might have had no answer for Roy’s shots, but Roy did have one for Dana’s. After hearing the UFC president ridicule his performance, Roy hit back in an interview with USA Today’s MMA blog, Fighting Stances:
I was surprised [the fight wasn't stopped sooner]. You could even see me yelling at Herb Dean, “Come on, ref.” But the thing is, there’s a lot of people . . . there’s a lot of money. Kimbo’s the only one that I know that had an entourage there; he actually had his family there, his management, while the rest of us kind of had to suffer. The UFC made, we’ll say, different concessions for Kimbo. I think he had a media room.
Kimbo’s definitely, I guess we’ll say, special. I don’t see the specialness fighting-wise, but more for TV-wise. He puts butts in the seats. So I think it was more that Herb Dean was afraid to lose his job, because there’s a lot of people with a lot of money that can have a lot of influence with his career.
Now, I don’t agree with Roy’s gripe about Dean allowing the fight to go on. The first time he had Kimbo defenseless was in the waning moments of the first round, and when the horn sounded Kimbo got right up, not looking too worse for wear. He been hit a lot but not taken much of a beating. He was fatigued from trying to fight his way off his back, but that’s what the one-minute break is for. However, when Nelson took Kimbo down again at the start of the second, immobilized him in crucifix position and started hitting him again, unanswered, the stoppage was inevitable.
Whatever you think of the timing of Herb Dean’s stoppage, you have to view Roy’s comments as being aimed not at the ref but at Dana White and the UFC. The suggestion that a ref would feel intimidated is serious business. And then there’s the charge that Kimbo was getting preferential treatment by having an entourage there. Watching the Spike broadcast, I didn’t see anyone hanging around outside the octagon other than the fighters, coaches, cornermen, UFC officials and state regulators, so maybe Nelson is speaking fiction. But there’s no doubt that Kimbo is a celebrity and is being promoted as such. That, however, is no crime.
We have to assume that Kimbo will get another chance. I say that not just because of the TV teasers suggesting that it might happen, but from Dana’s statement that Kimbo will fight on an upcoming UFC card. Slice surely didn’t earn that opportunity based on his performance against Roy Nelson. Here’s hoping that when he fights one of the other heavyweights on the show, Kimbo gets his swagger back. Ground game aside, Kimbo looked tentative even when he and Roy were standing. Sure, he was guarding against a takedown. But he was too guarded. He’s got to let those heavy fists fly. He may not be an ultimate fighter, but he’s a fighter. So he has to fight.
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will rainbow says:
iight.lets get it stright.roy did do jus enough to win.he was 2 heavy for kimbo,while they were standing kimbo was wining the fight.roy got cought but kimbo was no bein smart.its like playing cheackers an u move to a spot but all of a sudden your opponent doubble jumps.now iv been a kimbow beliver for quite sum time.he needs ground game but i dont think hes gunna find it. if he does fight again then he better knocc sumones ass out or iv lost the faifth.he is the badest mo fo around tho.but we will c.willl he inpress, or get dressed<corny lol
Big John P. says:
Can't everyone see the obvious? This is Hollywood! Both fighters looked as if they were sparring after an being up for 48 hours straight. Kimbo is a cash cow and Dana knows it. The fight was a BS! I predict Kimbo will be back in and the marque fight to decide the Ultimate Fighter will be Kimbo and Roy Nelson again! We will see a completely different fight, one that actually looks like a heavyweight bout! I predict Kimbo will knock Roy's head off and UFC will attribute his performance to his "hard training" during TUF. I may be wrong, I hope, but if I'm not I'll chock TUF right up there with big time wrestling!
Derren says:
Roy appeared to be doing a good job of keeping Kimbo at bay with his jab. Several connected and Kimbo did not look comfortable.
It's a shame the fight ended as it did really, I would have liked to have seen Kimbo's ground game improve since Thompson.
Mason Lerner says:
Kimbo is 35! If a 6'10'' athletic beast showed up from parts unknown with no basketball experience beyond playing 3 on 3, would anybody really believe he able to spend several years gaining skills and make the NBA one day, like when he was 40? It's ludicrous. This reminds me of when I bought my last car. People are getting sold a bill of goods and lapping it up eagerly. That wasn't a fight. It was a fat guy lying on another man and tapping him on the head.
Jeff Wagenheim says:
Characterizing the Kimbo-Roy fight as nothing more than "a fat guy lying on another man" or saying the result was a matter of Nelson being "2 heavy for Kimbo" is a bit simplistic. It was not simply girth that won Roy Nelson the fight. He had the mobility to avoid Kimbo's punches, the strength to take advantage in the clinch, and the skill to not simply lie on top of Kimbo but render him defenseless in crucifix position (i.e. immobilize both arms, leaving the head exposed for punches). If size were the determining factor, Akebono would be UFC champ.
Mason Lerner says:
I would agree with you if Roy did it to an actual contender. Or at least a real MMA pro. But Kimbo is a joke. Kimbo is also big and strong enough to play in the NFL. But I don't think it is realistic to expect a 35 year old man to just practice football for a year and then be ready for the highest level. Clearly Nelson is not elite, but he is at least the equivalent of an NFL back-up long snapper. Kimbo does not have the skills to be in the ring with these guys. It's only a matter of time before some scrub knocks him out cold. Oh wait...that already happened.
Trust me, that fight was not good if you are a casual fan or a newbie. It just looked kind of pathetic.
Jeff Wagenheim says:
Nobody is claiming Roy Nelson is a top-10 heavyweight. He is, however, the closest thing to it on the Spike show. His last two fights have been against legit heavies, Arlovski and Monson, and while he lost both bouts, he showed that he's no joke, even if he looks like one. (Against Arlovski, he had a clear edge on the ground and had worked himself into good position ... but the ref inexplicably stood them up and Roy got KO'd.) Getting put in with him was the worst thing to happen to Kimbo, since Nelson knows how to take a fight to the mat and control things there.
If Kimbo gets another shot on the Spike show and is matched with one of the less experienced guys, he'll do OK. If he can defend takedown attempts long enough to keep the fight standing for a while, he has a shot against anyone on the show.
But once the show is over and Kimbo steps in with a real UFC fighter, he's going to be in trouble unless the opponent is a guy who just wants to stand and bang, a la James Thompson. Anyone who's even reasonably well rounded is going to take him to school.